document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Nexstar Media Inc. All rights reserved. We should be sad that a woman couldn't face anymore life and think of her family who have lost a loved one. Calls are free and confidential. A mother who was behind on her rent and bills cradled her three-year-old daughter in her arms and jumped" on to train tracks, where they were both killed, an inquest has heard. it has NOTHING to do with it. The following service changes were implemented, according to the MTA: If you or somebody you know are having suicidal thoughts call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800-273-TALK (8255) or call 1-888-NYC-WELL (9355) to speak with a counselor. I find it utterly ridiculous that people call this woman "selfish" based on the fact that she somehow, in her morbidly depressed state of mind Selfish? steve: "Here is a bit of advice to those who seem to think this woman was selfish or a bad person. Felicia Garcia, 15, was reportedly tormented by her peers at Tottenville High School, who teased her about sexual encounters with football players, police sources told the New York Daily News. Her life ,her decision, her responsibilityshe is (or was) an adult with full responsibility and legal rights for goodness sake! What a waste! Powerful Commons committee could look at case for banning stoves in towns and Bird flu HAS mutated to infect people: Fresh pandemic fears as scientists on ground zero in Cambodia find China hits back at FBI claim that Wuhan lab leak likely caused global COVID outbreak - still no consensus Morbidly obese girl who died during lockdown begged her mother to clean her 'leaking legs' in Psychiatrist: What most women don't know about their hormones - and why you start drinking and smoking more Shamima Begum and other British women who joined Islamic State and are being held in Syria will 'ultimately' Don't just stick to the Malbec! I understand it completely. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. I hope people here look around with a bit more empathy; remember your own humanity, and reach out. True, suicide is seen as selfish in many parts of the world, but most of those who think this (even myself sometimes) cannot even begin to understand what makes a person contemplate let alone choose such a route. With 35.000 suicides per year, it is not the lady who had a problem, but the society which is inducing people to suicide. Female carer who bit off part of a pub landlady's ear during vicious bar brawl is jailed for 14 months. @BurakuminDes - I take your point, and I think anyone rational would agree with you, but I also think when you get to the point that you are thinking about diving in front of a train you are probably beyond rational thinking. Shortly afterwards, Ms Redmond and Melsadie were seen to enter Taplow stationand the pair remained at the station for around 20 minutes. Here is a bit of advice to those who seem to think this woman was selfish or a bad person. Very sad. July 13, 2011 05:00 pm JST. Northbound 1 and 3 trains are bypassing 72nd Street. I doubt she was thinking along those lines though. British Transport Police had declared the deaths a suspicious incident and an investigation was launched by their Major Crime team. Then, it sort of happened to me as well as I was waiting for Keio line - a girl and her mom were sitting on the bench and as the train approached the girl tried to jump. At those speeds there's going to be a mess. She was a resident of Paharganj area of Delhi. The inquest was told that between 2005 and 2015 while living in the UK, Zdenka had eight admissions to hospital, with half relating to being pregnant or having been pregnant. 2023 GPlusMedia Inc. Police said Wednesday that a woman jumped from a platform into the path of an express train in Tokyo's Katsushika Ward on Tuesday morning, killing herself and injuring four bystanders. 'When she was well, we never had confrontations, the only time we argued was when she didn't want to take her medication. I always wonder if train jumpers are so frustrated w/ society, that this is their final, middle-finger salute. Not one of you seem to consider that maybe this woman had fallen into depression due to the current situation caused by TEPCO or the Earthquake / Tsunami. Have some compassion for the victims here. Ppl who experienced this will be traumatised. Some say the most efficient way is to jump into an active volcano. British Transport Police subsequently declared the deaths a suspicious incident. A Long Island Railroad train bound for Rockaway Beach was gliding into the East New York Station at Atlantic Avenue and Manhattan Crossing about 5 o'clock yesterday afternoon when the. Awareness of the effects of one's actions on others yet choosing in one's own favor is a requisite of selfishness, and this woman, in all likelyhood, wasn't. That's truly sad. where a woman and a child were at various subway stations yesterday . The coroner said: 'At this stage, Melsadie is becoming rather frustrated and upset with her. Better to choose death. They do not dwell on the horror and get on with their lives. The lives that are always involved, the innocent people that have to suffer because the person wants to go out in style. I also very much doubt that she was in any kind of logical state of mind when she did this. I`m not a psychologist but that would be my impression. She would have known this if she had been thinking about it previous to the act, but did it anyway. She later made a number of phone calls, including one to her prospective employer and another fairly lengthy call with her landlord, Hightown Housing Association. Seems the bottom line in some of these posts is "I don't care about you or what you do, just don't inconvenience us.". The traditional way was to jump off a cliff. It's too bad someone chose to end their life in such a way to so traumatize others. EXCLUSIVE: Lanzarote sticks to its guns and insists it WILL limit tourists and move away from relying on Nearly half of British viewers believe ethnic minorities and LGBT communities are over-represented on TV, Is YOUR wood burner at risk? We should sop thinking so much about ourselves, ok we are late for work, but a fellow human has died, their shoudl be pity for the deceased and their family not bitterness and anger.Humanity needs a lot of improvement. There are many selfish ways of committing suicide which involve pain or difficulty or 'meiwaku' for others (actually the English contains a nuance not in Japanese, ie of committing a crime, so perhaps 'ending your own life' might be a better way to phrase it than 'committing suicide'). As for counselling, this country's culture is built on saving face. This site is part of Newsquest's audited local newspaper network. But before that can even happen, the stigma in society of seeking help needs to be broken. By someone. Paying tribute to his late wife, Mr Yabani added: 'Zdenka was a lovely woman, I was blessed to have her in my life. There are few posters on here who don't say it's a shame she did what she did, and that it's horrible she reached such a point where she felt this was the only option. People who commit suicide are selfish and in this case she even hurt innocent bystanders. More people rush to help the duo, and they are eventually pulled onto the platform. We should never condemn the mentally ill this way because it causes trouble to passengers etc. Thank You. There are many many reasons for that, from mental illness to terminal illness to simple congenital self-centredness; but with the possible exception of the terminally ill, it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem that leaves far too much mess for those left behind to have to clean up. The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. OMG! Many here seem to think that suicide is a matter of choice as is the means to commit the act. 'Stop and think' is always good advice. Brooklyn, NY - A 43-year-old woman was killed when she jumped in front of a northbound C train at Nostrand Avenue and Fulton Street in Flatbush at around 10:20 p.m. on March 19. She was behind on her rent, etcetera. 40.680481 -73.843731. would you agree that the definition of selfish could also be applied to the people here who are lacking in consideration for someone who was pushed to the ultimate extreme of taking her own life? Going to the top of the building could set off certain alarm bells, so to speak, and someone might notify the authorities or someone else and the person might be talked down. alot of people do this to make other people suffer & have regret. Firefighters responded to the station around 5:45 p.m., and EMS pronounced the woman dead on the scene, officials told Patch. Gleams Akihabara 703 They charge millions of yen for stoppages, extra work, etc Having been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, the court heard how Zdenka was not 'terribly keen' on taking her medication and following her discharge from mental health services in March 2017, she kept her husband in the dark and stopped taking it, despite advice. She was, probably as a result of her morbidly depressed state of mind thinking and acting selfishly, ie without thought of others. A man has been charged after he allegedly jumped onto train tracks near one of Sydney's busiest stations, bringing traffic to a standstill and causing chaos for commuters. (Just read today's article about women running into problems with loan companies. Once in a while they have a 'mental health awareness week' where they bring in a few more people to operate a hotline for people thinking about suicide but the bottom line is they need to do more. But seriously here, counselling is available for those that look for it. As for the deceased person, as we do not know anything about her, it is a little early to judge her motives. Just legalize euthanasia. All of you who said "she was selfish" knew her right? OZONE PARK, Queens A woman was killed after she jumped in front of a train Friday morning, policesaid. host: ITV boss who 'forced out Piers Morgan' Police inspect burnt items as hundreds of officers and volunteers with sniffer dogs scour parkland for From nightmares to candy cravings, the seemingly innocuous habits in children that may be early warning What you need to know about new number plates on cars being sold across the country TODAY. Mr Wade said: 'Melsadie is pretty well behaved. Mr Hector Bradley . I've seen suicide, lived with it from someone close and i would never blame them for the hurt it caused me and others. Subsequently, a train slows to a halt on the tracks. Peopel, pleased educate yourselves on mental illness and what makes a person suicidal and how they are thinking. Police said Wednesday that a woman jumped from a platform into the path of an express train in Tokyo's Katsushika Ward on Tuesday morning, killing herself and injuring four bystanders. 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Cleo -- aecho11 says it all. Taking Vitamin D each day could cut your chances of getting dementia, study claims. Police had few immediate details, but said the person may have jumped in front of the subway. To his horror, later that evening Zdenka walked through the door, doused in diesel fuel. ', 'I did not think she was suffering a relapse at the time although it did not occur to me. Sweater dresses are perfect for cooler weather, because theyre made of thicker fabric that can keep you warm even when the temperatures drop. She had to have felt some pain there. The inquest heard that a member of the public who was walking down the stairs briefly paused to look at Ms Redmond, but then moved on. I ahve seen this happen to someone, leading up to their death i got hurt so did many others. If the person can redirect their thoughts to include others, they're more likely to realise that things aren't that bad and so less likely to actually commit suicide. Of course, when you have spiralled into the pit of depression and all capability for rational thought has gone, it is not possible to see it that way. |. I doubt she thought that she would harm anybody else in the process, and it's wrong to assume she wanted to. I think it is wrong and low class to criticise someone who found that this was the best thing for them. Describing CCTV footage showing the mother and daughter today, Assistant Coroner Ian Wade KC told Beaconsfield Coroner's Court: 'Sadly, what we can see is that she gathers Melsadie up in her arms and jumps carefully from the platform down to what is known as the forefoot and is then struck by the train.'. sadly it does. Four shoppers sustained minor injuries in the incident. According to investigators, the woman, believed to have been aged in her 40s or 50s, was standing on the third platform at Shin-Koiwa Station at around 10:00 a.m. She then moved to the edge of the platform as the Narita Express airport service approached, on schedule, at 10:04 a.m. and threw herself in front of the train, which was travelling at around 110 kph. Why, of course it is! UPPER WEST SIDE, NY A woman died after jumping in front of a train at the West 72nd Street and Broadway subway station Thursday night, an NYPD spokeswoman told Patch. 'We were aware that pregnancy was a difficult time for her in terms of her mental health. We know her well enough to know she ended her life in the most selfish way possible - by traumatizing many people forced to witness her death, not to mention those injured. Also, Japan's teen suicide rate is among the highest in the world. For confidential support call the Samaritans in the UK on 08457 90 90 90, visit a local Samaritans branch or click here for details. Remove the stigma and try to help society understand it is the same as any other illness, nothing to be ashamed of. CCTV footage from the location shows a woman jumping in front of a moving train in Ghatkopar station in Mumbai. Some like yourself may contemplate and be abel to stop the urges and possibly get help For soemthey may get further and feel there is no help or they are so far gone into the darkness to be helped. Because it's far more likely she ended her life for the simpler reason most people end their life - clinical depression. Please show her and her family some respect. Parents as well as educational institutions have a responsibility for the wellfare of their youth, not just their grades. I'm tired of having traffic backed up when they jump off of a bridge, delays when they go in front of a train, and bystanders being endangered when they want a cop to off them. A tragedy and a waste of a life. There was no criminality. Perhaps some high profile celebrities talking about their mental health issues/treatment? . 'Selfish' is a description, not a judgement. Police are currently trying to identify the deceased. It seems like it is getting worse. Plus, in Japanese society, past and present, there is NO stigmata on suicide. Please look at the time stamp on the story to see when it was last updated. By Jamie Phillips and Charlie Moloney For Mailonline, Published: 21:07 GMT, 15 November 2022 | Updated: 10:11 GMT, 30 November 2022. i wish people who post here would Learn MORE about Japan "I am going to kill myself, and I am going to make all of you late for work, dates, whatever in the process.". Compassion is free. A smile or even some expressed concern, verbal or not, can go a long ways to helping ease someone's state of mind and break down barriers; at the very least, it will provide a brief reprieve for a troubled soul. 'This is a gesture or activity which appears to have shown deliberation and forethought. Giving evidence at the Berkshire Coroner's Court in Reading, Mr Yabani explained that the pair moved to Slough in 2007 after he accepted the role of Minister at St Andrews Church and Zdenka was pregnant with their first son. There is SOME counselling, but it's still woefully inadequate and carries a certain stigma with it. ( ) A. bad B. badly C. good D . Not sure what you're saying in the last line, here are you saying you doubt others were traumatized? Incredibly (or perhaps not so incredibly) another person did the same thing there today. Train-related accidents may not be common, but they occur in New York City. Reports suggested that the woman was accused in a case. We can expect more people to commit suicide if they feel they can't survive in this country. A woman in Mumbai's Kandivali area committed suicide by jumping in front of a Mumbai local train on Wednesday afternoon. It breaks my heart. ( ) A. left B. arrived C. went D. returned. The comments below have been moderated in advance. This was perhaps because, in the back of my mind, I always knew help and support were available. It was found later from other CCTV camera recordings from the station that the woman escaped unhurt and got out of the railway station. If you want to feel preachy you can even require psychological counseling but give them some out of the way place to do it. herefornow - Taking time to put one's affairs in order first and considering how to end it all without harming others are both ways for the suicidal person to put their problems in perspective, see things in a different light and at the very least give themselves a chance to rethink what they're about to do. It was an awful experience. 2) The person could commit the act suddenly and without others knowing what is about to happen. Watch the full video for more.Connect with Hindustan TimesPress the bell icon on YouTube for all the latest updates from Hindustan TimesLike us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hindustantimesTweet us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/httweetsFollow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hindustantimes/Find us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hindustantimes/Subscribe to Hindustan Times on Telegram: https://t.me/hindustantimes#Mumbai #Train #Rescue 'After the birth of our second child, she relapsed and was admitted to hospital again. I don't know the severity of that woman'situation, so I can't say what pushed her over the edge, but I doubt she had any people she could be open with or even had a shoulder to lean on. I will never regret having her in my life.'. That wouldn't be selfish, it would be malevolent. It would be great if everyone in the world was apart of a single global consciousness. I think I'd be sick to my stomach if I witnessed that. However, they returned just 12 minutes later at 8.17pm. Sign up for free Patch newsletters and alerts. The coroner heard how the religious pair met while they were both living in the Czech Republic, before separately travelling to America and reconnecting. The woman jumped in front of a southbound A train at Rockaway Boulevard around 10 a.m., policesaid. 6 IRT train at the station at 68th Street and Lexington Avenue at 12:01 P.M. yesterday, transit authorities said. 16:07 GMT 13 Nov 2020 She had jumped in front of the train with her . The most difficult thing is watching your loved one getting worse and worse and being so helpless to do anything about it. If she'd had someone to listen to her - really listen - this might not have happened. You are quite certain to succeed with something like this. Published on : 24 Feb, 2023, 12:39 pm. What annoys me that this government ignores this problem like so many others, bullying, shody reactors and so on. By 6pm, CCTV showed Ms Redmond was with Melsadie as she tried to book an Uber to an address in Beaconsfield and made a call to her mother, which did not go through. tired of the traffic backed up from suicides? The inquest was set to continue for five days. New Delhi: A woman jumped in front of the Delhi Metro train at Model Town Metro station on Saturday and committed suicide. I think we all have contemplated it at one time or another? Seems like a lot of people still need to learn about mental illness. It might not get better. Smorkian; FOR GODS SAKE!!! I am even more glad like i choose to work from home, never socialse anymore and just be with those who matter. Auto Loans by Suruga Bank do not require permanent residency to apply. There is a good deal of toing and froing.'. A Great Western Railway employee, Anna Bodja, who witnessed the tragic death, said: 'I heard the fast train approaching, I heard the announcement and I saw the announcement on the board. It seems some people don't understand the meaning of the word 'selfish': lacking consideration for others. Royal Mail worker Zdenka Yabani spiralled downhill after a scan of her unborn daughter revealed the news that her baby was 'small' and could have a facial abnormality. No counseling available in this country? DS Rees agreed that Melsadie was 'behaving well' and did not 'appear to be demanding' until the mother and daughter were seen leaving the station. Many would feel they are losing face by going to a counsellor, that that's a sign of weakness. is rational - at least for now! The incident occurred as the train was pulling into the Lorimer Street station around 7:42 p.m., according to. Use your Facebook account to login or register with JapanToday. She was caring and a good mother. Jeremy Clarkson is axed as Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? Try thinking how damaged the person is to consider ending their life, not an easy thing to do. Just imagine buying bottled water in a train station, than suddenly get hit with blood and body parts. A person contemplating suicide is so full of their own problems they have no room left to consider others. Mabye we shoudl point our fingers at that rather tahn the victim. She had to have felt some pain there. If you've been impacted by this story, Samaritans is a confidential emotional support service for anyone in the UK and Ireland. Of course it is sad that she took her life in this manner but people are not rational whne they do this. and even "Didnt he/she love me enough to try and get better/help themselves" can drive people to their own dark place. more than 34000 people kill themself in Japan every year, that is horrible! Please report any comments that break our rules. Had police been observing her, they would have approached her because of her behaviour., The coroner said: At this stage, Melsadie is becoming rather frustrated and upset with her. For that you are lucky. With our first child, she had severe post natal depression. contact the editor here. Describing the CCTV footage, DS Rees told the inquest: 'Her behaviour, as a police officer watching, was not normal. I think I'd be sick to my stomach if I witnessed that. 'She had to be admitted to hospital two weeks after we came home,' said the husband. 'Usually when she had an episode, the signs were lack of sleep, lack of appetite and being angry but she was normal before and after the incident,' husband Jude said at the inquest into her death on Thursday. The inquest heard Ms Redmond had a bill to her electricity supplier of 334 outstanding, a bill to her gas supplier of 638 and she was in rent arrears of 1499.37. She may simply have chosen this route because of her belief that it would both end her suffering and take the burden of supporting her away from society and/or whatever family she had. 'I noticed a woman in a white jacket back away and start running across the platform.'. Registered in England & Wales | 01676637 |. By 6pm, CCTV footage showed that Ms Redmond was with Melsadie and she tried to book an Uber toBeaconsfield and made a call to her mother. If you must kill yourself, put your affairs in order first and choose a method that doesn't leave a gory mess. JapanToday 'It made me late for work' -type posts - Yes indeed. I mean why would you say that about a dead person unless you were either completely without an ounce of compassion in your heart, socially maladriot, or you knew and hated the person. 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